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[wellinghall]

[Poll #823321]

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[wellinghall.livejournal.com]

This bit got missed out! I know none of this matters - it just comes from a conversation at Oxonmoot earlier today, and I fell to musing on the subject on the journey home.

[eldritchhobbit.livejournal.com]

Hey there! Interesting poll! I must admit that I haven't the foggiest idea. I understand "class" in a historical sense, but I don't really "get it" in the contemporary context. I don't think I have the tools to answer this one. Sorry I'm no help!

[wellinghall.livejournal.com]

No, your comments are helpful. I know intellectually that such things are different in the States, but I haven't experienced enough of it to understand it.

[na-lon.livejournal.com]

I am foreign - I don't 'do' class in that way. I believe your education and profession would put you into middle class. But it means relatively little to me in terms of connotation. Hope that makes sense.

[wellinghall.livejournal.com]

Thanks for that.

[gramarye1971]

Not exactly having met you in person, I don't think I can really respond. ^^;; Alas.

[wellinghall.livejournal.com]

Entirely understandable! - although I'm still trying to work out whether I have met (in RL) one of the people who have voted, or whether he is going entirely by my LJ posts and my reputation ...

[beckyc.livejournal.com]

Dare we ask what class you consider yourself to be? And what class do you consider me to be?

[wellinghall.livejournal.com]

For me, middle class and A. For you? I'd guess middle class and B.

[wryelle.livejournal.com]

I havnt met you either, and this question has made me realise how classless text can be. I'm guessing middle, because most of my friends are.

A good book on the anthropology of the English (I forget the author) says we have in fact 6 classes. Lower working, upper working, lower middle, middle middle, upper middle, upper. I think this is about right.

[wellinghall.livejournal.com]

"Watching the English"? - although I though that actually divided us into nine.

[beckyc.livejournal.com]

In this day and age, I'm not really sure what class I am anymore*, because computer programmers don't really fit in! Professional of some sort I guess would probably be closest, although like most in my field, I don't have (or need) any industry-regulated qualifications (just a couple of Oxford degrees).

*What I was when I was growing up was middle middle class. Pretty much by definition, since both my parents were teachers and that's about as middle as you can get.

[the-marquis.livejournal.com]

I think you may both have been at a Taruithorn banquet at St Margaret's Hall a few years back (when you came as the obligatory HP self-insertion :) )

[didiusjulianus.livejournal.com]

Wondered how long it would take for you to ask this ;)

Looked up the defs before answering...as I now see, same answer as you gave yourself.

However, I think it is all a load of *******, for lots of reasons that I am too tired to talk about, but two that come to mind are that the socio-economic scale naturally puts younger people at the beginning of their careers in a lower banding (despite the fact that this takes no account of the 'socio-' bit), and that none of the scales I just looked at properly take account of people (often women but not necessarily) who do not fit into the traditional pattern of career progression due to other non-paying or non-career-oriented responsibilities/lifestyle choices.

Regardless of you being upper middle class and A-banded by definition, I stand by the original comment I made at the time too, (which wasn't *the* original comment).

[wellinghall.livejournal.com]

I stand by the original comment I made at the time too, (which wasn't *the* original comment).

You'll have to remind me (on or off list).

[chris-maslen.livejournal.com]

Not being sure whether we've met in RL or not, I picked Middle class simply 'cos in my experience they are the only ones who bother keeping track.

[wellinghall.livejournal.com]

That sounds entiely reasonable ;-)

I don't think we've met (unless you are a TS or SocT member?)

[chris-maslen.livejournal.com]

I was a Taruithorn member for several years and met TolkSoc on a number of occasions, mind you this was all a while ago.

[wellinghall.livejournal.com]

Ah, I've found out who you are ... We sort of knew each other in RL, but I believe you knew my other half Creatrix.

[wellinghall.livejournal.com]

Interested by the one outlier (a B) I got?

[chris-maslen.livejournal.com]

Oooookay, that was like being informative only not. Since I have no clue who Creatrix is I'm still no closer to knowing who you are, but hey ho, I'll figure it out sooner or later. :-)

[wellinghall.livejournal.com]

The red-head who founded Taruithorn.