Inspired by a question from [livejournal.com profile] mrkinch

Jan. 18th, 2008 04:52 pm
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... which I will reply to, honest, having just found the email nestling in the bottom of my inbox ...

[Poll #1123403]

Date: 2008-01-18 05:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] megamole.livejournal.com
If he'd wanted a cod Happy Ending, Tolkien would have ended with Aragorn's coronation at the Field of Cormallen.

Date: 2008-01-18 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckyc.livejournal.com
Net, yes. For Frodo, not so much.

Date: 2008-01-18 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] overconvergent.livejournal.com
I was about to say that. If you're Sam, then you get a different answer to Frodo, I guess

Date: 2008-01-18 06:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
I agree with megamole.

On the other hand, I wouldn't say it had a sad ending, either. It's - bittersweet, I suppose, because joy can never be unmixed for long in a fallen world - and yet it is also a world where grace is apparent, too, and evil, though it cannot be wholly destroyed, cannot conquer forever.

Date: 2008-01-18 06:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lisa-marli.livejournal.com
You really needed a Mixed option. It had its happy and its sad parts. I did cry, but it wasn't the Really Sad type of cry.

Date: 2008-01-18 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigerfort.livejournal.com
[X] both/neither, depending on your viewpoint and what you mean by ending (since we have a fair amount of detail about what happens in the story after the end of the book).

Date: 2008-01-18 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bouncy-elf.livejournal.com
It is eternally bittersweet.

Date: 2008-01-18 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hyalma.livejournal.com
As a matter of fact, I would choose both issues - it's like a glass of water, of which the optimist says it's half-filled, and the pessimist - that it's half-empty.

Bittersweet, yes.

Date: 2008-01-19 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrkinch.livejournal.com
It may depend on where one's sympathies chiefly lie. There are those for whom the fading of the Elves is of no import. I am not one of them; I think it is a tragedy for all the peoples and for Middle-Earth itself. This quite aside from the ephemeral nature of victory over evil.

The question gets caught in my head every time I find reference to those critics for whom the physical survival of 8/9ths of the Fellowship demonstrates that
The Lord of the Rings
is a juvenile adventure story. There is also the writer who suggest who else should die when in order for the book to escape being so. I am not certain which astonishes me more.

Date: 2008-01-19 01:16 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] alitalf.livejournal.com
ish - Frodo was going to somewhere he could recover, something not granted to many. For most of the rest of the world, distinct improvement all round.

Date: 2008-01-19 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melilot-909.livejournal.com
"sad but not unhappy" as JRRT wrote about Fangorn's eyes.

Date: 2008-01-20 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] findabair.livejournal.com
Interesting question! I haven't really thought of it quite in those terms before (and now that I think of it, I really wonder why I have not!).

I have to say like people here have done before me though, that it's difficult answer either yes or no.

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