Date: 2006-10-26 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] didiusjulianus.livejournal.com
Well, unless the animals concerned are seriously endangered, IMO eating one kind of animal is ethically much akin to eating another, therefore as I'm a meat-eater, it's fine by me on that score anyway. (Obviously if one is a vegetarian one should object to eating whales, but IMO only as much as eating any other mammal).

Now, if our Icelandic friends are shown to be decimating a rare breed, or using inhumane methods, or anything else that is really worth complaining about, THEN I will decry the practice.

Thanks for the info on cod, well, that's something. Still concerns me that having ruined our own fish stocks, we're now eating other people's, a nation of 1/100 the world's population eating 1/3 of all the cod, when there are plenty of other whitefish available more readily.

Date: 2006-10-26 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-marquis.livejournal.com
Well one of the breeds they're intend to hunt is endangered, they just dispute the population figures. Whales move around so it's not like Farmer Giles telling the leftie veggies he'll slaugfhter and eat whichever of his cows he pleases to, because they aren't necessarily 'their' whales. And the whale killing business is not like a slaughterhouse or hunter killing an animal quickly and painlessly with a humane killer or one shot - exploding harpoons or 19th century blades on sticks are slow and painful killers

Date: 2006-10-26 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] didiusjulianus.livejournal.com
Have you got sources? (No I'm not being funny, I am genuinely interested). If this is the case, then as per my previous comments, I don't approve of that particular whaling.

Date: 2006-10-26 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-marquis.livejournal.com
Adittedly most of my info is based on things heard/read ages ago, but here are some sources I googled tonight.

News of Iceland's whaling & general info
BBC News 3 days ago (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6074230.stm)

News as above and a pic of a whale carcass, so it seems there's a lot of wastage ...
Greenpeace (http://oceans.greenpeace.org/en/the-expedition/news/iceland-resumes-commercial-wha)

International Whaling Commission page with estimates of whale numbers by area and type
the IWC numbers (http://www.iwcoffice.org/conservation/estimate.htm)

Whale killing methods and how slow it can be,
Methods here at BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3847167.stm)

and an article which is linked from it
BBC and views on whale death (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3542987.stm)

Whalewatch's site FAQs on whaling (admittedly they might be biased)
Whalewatch, cited by the BBC (http://www.whalewatch.org/en/default.asp?pageid=5)

Plus a Japanese whaling site with a marine biologist's view of things (as I read it it he was essentially saying we need to take a more careful, balanced and forward looking approach but I was sklimming)
Good or bad (http://luna.pos.to/whale/jwa_v14_tafe.html)

And given all the fish we can and do catch and all the animals we farm is there a need for whaling beyond it conmforming to a 'cultural history' and despite what the marine biologist says many of us have grown out of killing people we dislike or capturing someone else's livestock or women for our own ...

Date: 2006-10-30 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] didiusjulianus.livejournal.com
Thank you. I will read them when I have finished doing things I ought to...otherwise I will procrastinate on the topic of whales all afternoon.

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